The Pontiac Solstice Was a Better Miata from General Motors

4 Αύγ 2020
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The Pontiac Solstice was a Mazda Miata from General Motors -- except I think it was better. Today I'm reviewing the Solstice GXP to explain what was and what I think about it, and I'm going to take you on a tour of the Solstice. I'm also going to drive the Solstice GXP and show you what the Pontiac Solstice was like on the road.
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  • I remember when this car came out. It was so damn girly looking. Bought another Trans Am and forgot about this “gay best friend” car.

    Cynical SayonaraCynical SayonaraΠριν 53 λεπτά
  • Why would you let someone review your car when it's this dirty?

    RogredRogredΠριν ημέρα
  • “Want a piece of me!?” “I’ll take two!”

    HaloFanHaloFanΠριν ημέρα
  • Yellow is in. - Eugene Kwok

    Brad WolfBrad WolfΠριν 2 ημέρες
  • Doug, wash the man's car, np to send you coins for next time...

    fastyguy99fastyguy99Πριν 3 ημέρες
  • It's not a MIATA. Stop saying that, please!

    gmhummerh2gmhummerh2Πριν 3 ημέρες
  • Saturn Sky > Pontiac Solstice Fight me

    big spicy wienerbig spicy wienerΠριν 4 ημέρες
  • I’ve seen just about all of your videos and this is one of my favorites! Keep on the enthusiasm about cars! I enjoy every second of it

    yoav shavityoav shavitΠριν 6 ημέρες
  • I own a Saturn Sky. I am pretty happy with it. I'm glad you gave it such a good review.

    ZedamentZedamentΠριν 7 ημέρες
  • The scion Skye was a better version. Had a Honda v6 and no nasty retro grill

    nostickpeoplenostickpeopleΠριν 10 ημέρες
  • I also prefer the Saturn version.

    NYOB0001NYOB0001Πριν 11 ημέρες
  • My friend had this exact car in GXP trim, and myself a NC miata in GT trim... We both preferred the Mazda for its refinement, character, and practicality. The fun we had with the solstice was related to its speed and the fact that its a head turner driving slow on a local strip. The GXP was less exciting to drive despite its straight line speed, and at times felt cheezy, under engineered (parts bin heavy, limited chassis design/suspension testing) and as a result the end product feels rushed. You buy this car for the look. I know the GM engineer in charge of translating the concept to production, and I can assure you the achievement with the solstice was bringing concept car styling from sketch to showroom through a bureaucracy like old GM. Some really innovative panel shaping techniques were invented for this project also. It's a shame the volt didn't have the same luck in translating from concept to production and now GM has to learn the hard way, by stick from Elon Musk. It would have been nice to see a second generation solstice GXP but GM's north star is to lose its way over and over.

    jnicholsonjrjnicholsonjrΠριν 12 ημέρες
  • Dough Mario in every video be like:Thisss...

    Ko LayKo LayΠριν 12 ημέρες
  • Hummm, is this a Canada car gauge was in kilometers per hour

    Skyler LuckySkyler LuckyΠριν 12 ημέρες
  • You compare it to a Miata, a Miata is like Chuck steak, and the GM roadster is Porterhouse. No comparison. That’s like saying a Porsche Cayenne is like a Ford Explorer .

    Skyler LuckySkyler LuckyΠριν 12 ημέρες
  • I love my Saturn Sky Redline better, it is my baby Vette, Miata doesn’t hold a candle to my Sky factory coil overs spaceframe. It’s my baby Vette. Most people have no clue what it is. And some think its a Vette, it only has 42,000ish miles

    Skyler LuckySkyler LuckyΠριν 12 ημέρες
  • I think there wasa Holden version in Australia for a very short time

    Adam NewlanAdam NewlanΠριν 14 ημέρες
  • Miata is a Grrrlls car

    El RafaEl RafaΠριν 15 ημέρες
  • $10k? The same era Miatas, 350z convertibles and even my BMW Z4 are going for half that now.

    biochem70biochem70Πριν 15 ημέρες
  • I just love early 2000’s cheap GM plastic.

    Jose RiveraJose RiveraΠριν 16 ημέρες
  • Fantastic aesthetic, unfortunately the plethora of malfunctions and issues would lead me to pass it as a car to own personally. I'd rather not be turned into another statistic due to the cars faulty Ignition locking system.

    PanahPanahΠριν 17 ημέρες
  • Bob Lutz ordered the first prototype made and Franz von Holzhausen designed it.

    Padraic McDonnellPadraic McDonnellΠριν 17 ημέρες

    JacksonJacksonΠριν 17 ημέρες
  • Got this recommended after watching Adam Lz LS swap his moms car

    Angel AlejoAngel AlejoΠριν 17 ημέρες
  • Impossible. Nothing can be better than Miata

    PhoenixUltraMotivePhoenixUltraMotiveΠριν 18 ημέρες
  • Who is here after Adam Lz LS swap his mom own😂

    Raeshon HernandezRaeshon HernandezΠριν 18 ημέρες
  • General motors should make another two seater to compete with the Mazda Miata.

    George Harley RiderGeorge Harley RiderΠριν 18 ημέρες
  • Oh... compared to an NC.... it all makes sense now.

    James BarrosJames BarrosΠριν 18 ημέρες
  • All drivetrain and major mechanical parts are off the shelf GM items used in a variety of vehicles. The LNF engine has been upgraded by a couple generations, and the new version (LDK) bolts in with little modification. Transmission is just an Aisin (either auto or manual), used everywhere. The rear diff is a Caddy mechanical limited slip. Replacement sheet metal is a problem, and don't bend the frame. LOL As long as you don't actually wreck the car, there should be no reason you can't keep it running for a very long time. That being said, I have enough spare parts to practically build another one, including a spare engine.......

    Tendra DelrissianTendra DelrissianΠριν 18 ημέρες
  • Good luck finding parts for any Solstice.

    Charles M RinehartCharles M RinehartΠριν 18 ημέρες
  • They should have rebranded it and kept it going after they shut down Pontiac.

    Ed BakerEd BakerΠριν 18 ημέρες
  • Doug: GM offered a GMPP dealer installed tune for the Pontiac GXP and Saturn Redline. For about an extra $1,000: The car's power was turned up to 290 HP and 340 lbs of torque. That extra 80 lbs of torque turned these into real little rockets. I have the Sky Redline version. Mine has the GMPP tune plus a couple additional mods, now running approximately 350 HP and 400 lbs of torque. In my humble opinion, the Kappa platform was one of the greatest designs that GM every came up with, and then they kicked it to the curb. They should have kept the platform and moved it to a different division, instead of just tossing it. This is a full boxed frame, with the Body welded-glued to the frame, and true independent suspension with coil over shocks. GM also offered an "off road" suspension upgrade that lowered the car another 1/2 inch and stiffened up the ride even more, which I also have installed on my car. Even the body panels were innovative, they were manufactured via hydro-forming instead of stamping. I am sure you can find someone in CA with one of these tuned up, there are plenty of aftermarket tuners running the power up as well: You will be amazed how well they run with the bigger power.

    Tendra DelrissianTendra DelrissianΠριν 19 ημέρες
  • Swap an LV3 4.3 v6 into this and it becomes a lighter, faster, and better handling car with improved fuel economy.

    Slays MediaSlays MediaΠριν 19 ημέρες
  • Likes GM product better than Miata. /looks up to see who the author was again.... Huh.

    Christopher R.Christopher R.Πριν 19 ημέρες
  • miata is better, take it back 😡

    derwin gamingderwin gamingΠριν 20 ημέρες
  • I'm looking at getting one are they safe in a car crash

    hondagang59hondagang59Πριν 21 ημέρα
  • There’s a supercharged solstice nearby with only 35k miles...

    armando chirinoarmando chirinoΠριν 21 ημέρα
  • I owned a black 2007 Solstice GXP I bought brand new. It was a great car. Very fun to drive, and I only had to have a few minor repairs done. I owned the car for 10 years. After an optional GM performance upgrade that cost $750 along with a couple other minor aftermarket upgrades, the car did 0-60 mph in under 5 seconds.

    zoiks 66zoiks 66Πριν 24 ημέρες
  • a better miata, so they filled for bakruptcy after making the best car in the world, if you never drove a manual how can you say that, bi-turbo ,one cylinder miata wankel engine is worse than this ......what?i doubt it ,one of the best cars in the world and can be tuned till 300 h.p. a second fiero wanna be

    Rui CameiraRui CameiraΠριν 25 ημέρες
  • Me: **sees title** “nononononono”

    Rowan CucanicRowan CucanicΠριν 25 ημέρες
  • honestly if i had to choose i might pick this over a Miata as i find the Miata a bit of a boring pick and i like more unique cars.

    Rads BossCraftRads BossCraftΠριν 26 ημέρες
  • "Better than the miata" oh no Doug, the JDM dorks and weaboos are gonna be mad at you.

    Chris WilsonChris WilsonΠριν 27 ημέρες
  • When did Billy on the Street start reviewing cars??

    James RaymondJames RaymondΠριν 29 ημέρες
  • My neighbour has one of these in dark blue, and I’ve always thought it was the ugliest, beady eyed little bug I’ve ever seen.

    Ray GunRay GunΠριν μήνα
  • I love my Solstice GXP! I recommend to try one before getting a MX-5.

    Colin DuBordColin DuBordΠριν μήνα
  • Taller and wider than the Miata and S2000, it seemed to be in a unique size class.

    Funky' FurballsFunky' FurballsΠριν μήνα
  • They're never bringing this back. They rebadged it as a saturn for a short while, but the plant they made this was left to languish for yeeeeears... Then they tore it down and a new amazon warehouse is going up in it's place.

    AngPurAngPurΠριν μήνα
  • Hmmmm Now wait a minute there mister .... The car does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and you give it just a (5) out of 10 .... For a $10,000 car that is very fast ....

    Mark CamMark CamΠριν μήνα
  • Please don't compare this disgusting humonculous to a miata

    Robert WilhelmRobert WilhelmΠριν μήνα
  • You guys gotta start learning to be more open minded about the doug scores lmao

    Skate Raptor 1Skate Raptor 1Πριν μήνα
  • The Solstice is the female of the Kappa cars, especially that bright yellow color. And it's disgustingly dirty.(you would think the owner could have cleaned it up a bit for Doug's review). I'll take my black sky redline tyvm... Some simple bolt on's, a water/meth kit and a tune via HP tuners gets me 330 whp and some serious smiles. : )

    Danger DaveDanger DaveΠριν μήνα
  • Everyone: Da-e-woo Doug: Dae-wooooo

  • Actually I thought the Saturn Sky looked better

    Tom SpauldingTom SpauldingΠριν μήνα
  • No other way to tell GXP and base apart, oh only the different front fascia.

    E. S.E. S.Πριν μήνα
  • THIS

    TriPyramid PicturesTriPyramid PicturesΠριν μήνα
  • That's 2 points higher than your score for the Fiata you did. The antenae looks like it would be real intrusive for the passenger , like inches away from the door. All the raving you did about it while testing surprised me with your final score. I own three Corvettes 82, 96 and 2003 and they all have hoods that open forward.

    Steve KeithleySteve KeithleyΠριν μήνα
  • I definitely prefer its sister Saturn Sky's aesthetic but it still is a nice car

    NF 14NF 14Πριν μήνα
  • I hope it will resurrect as a Pontiac electric vehicle brand.

    죠르노버터링죠르노버터링Πριν μήνα
  • 7:05 how to keep your passenger's leg away so you can shift into 5th gear 😂

    Nicholas BoltonNicholas BoltonΠριν μήνα
  • Maximum Bob Lutz dream child. In 2009, they were selling them brand new for $21K. Almost pulled the trigger but bought a Crossfire instead which was also on he chopping block.

    John BrancoJohn BrancoΠριν μήνα
  • The skyy was a gorgeous vehicle. I'd like to own one

    Victor MartinezVictor MartinezΠριν μήνα
  • This car reminds me of Driver San Francisco so much, it was fun to drive when escaping from the cops.

    ariel estradaariel estradaΠριν μήνα
  • Unfortunately, they fall apart

    Mark EvansMark EvansΠριν μήνα
  • If you've ever seen the first Transformers movie from 2007, you'll most likely see this car in the movie as one of the transforming vehicles.

    Joseph PeoplesJoseph PeoplesΠριν μήνα
  • I thought Pontiac was dead.

  • It's very annoying to hear you compare it to a Miata so many times

    Guillermo OrtizGuillermo OrtizΠριν μήνα
  • better miata... until its wheels fall off

    Soda BlockSoda BlockΠριν μήνα
  • Is the license plate Sha ❤️ cat? Or shart cat? 🤔

    StayWildGaming lStayWildGaming lΠριν μήνα
  • Pozda Miontac

    StayWildGaming lStayWildGaming lΠριν μήνα
  • 3000lbs 260hp vs 2100lbs 170hp pretty close

    Larry JepealLarry JepealΠριν μήνα
  • wasn't the Cadillac xlr also based on this platform

    Tom WilsonTom WilsonΠριν μήνα
  • The cobalt ss also used this engine

    AlanAlanΠριν μήνα
    • @Bruce Beauvais the later Gen SS is turbo as was the redline. However the first gen SS was supercharged

      AlanAlanΠριν μήνα
    • Wasn’t the Cobalt SS supercharged as was the Ion Redline? This car and it’s Sky equivelent are turbocharged.

      Bruce BeauvaisBruce BeauvaisΠριν μήνα
  • I can feel the Winter Solstice approaching❄️☃️🌬

    Lone Druid98Lone Druid98Πριν μήνα
  • C u r v e s

    Aaron BalchandAaron BalchandΠριν μήνα
  • The best part of the solstice/sky journey was the dealer installed option for another 30 hp for a total of 290 and obscene amounts of torque. "Whoops our bad guys we left some power on the table, just bring it back in and toss us a few hundred bucks and we will hook you up."

    Guru4hireGuru4hireΠριν μήνα
  • Better Miata? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    Mike PenskeMike PenskeΠριν μήνα
  • When I take my Pontiac Solstice for a weekend trip with the top down, we put our weekender bags in the storage flaps on the front of the seats

    Adam OtlewskiAdam OtlewskiΠριν μήνα
  • Is the Saturn Sky the same car?

    James R PeetJames R PeetΠριν μήνα
  • Ah yes, the Bob Ross of Car Reviews.... Beat the Doug score out of it

    St. MSt. MΠριν μήνα
  • I always wanted one of those. Saturn Sky was cool too.

    ssbrosking36ssbrosking36Πριν μήνα
  • I have owned a 2006 solstice, silver with 5sp trans, with 58k miles on it. for a bit over 5 years now. It has been fun and trouble free the whe time. Only complaint: 2 seats, 3 cup holders, but no ash tray. Great car.

    Day GamerDay GamerΠριν μήνα
  • I’ve always loved the solstice, when I was a young child on my scooter I used to imagine while I was riding my scooter I was driving a red Pontiac solstice

    CTen2CTen2Πριν μήνα
  • That car is a mess...borderline gross.

    Kyle NicholKyle NicholΠριν μήνα
  • I love that the mandated 3rd brake light was slightly lower than the regular ones! LOL (Higher ones at driver's level makes the light more visible to drivers behind reducing the likelihood of rear end crashes.)

    charmercicharmerciΠριν μήνα
  • Have you found a Saturn Sky Redline to review? I'd love to see your review on the sister car to the solstice, OR the even more rare Solstice Coupe` hardtop

    Brian HaarmannBrian HaarmannΠριν μήνα
  • You mean a wayyyyyyyy uglier miata

    davix 2301davix 2301Πριν μήνα
  • Then there's the Saturn Sky, same car but ten times better looking

    Randy KumpfRandy KumpfΠριν μήνα
  • Actually, there is the 5. Version of the solstice. And its called the Vauxhall VX220.

    nissan gt-rnissan gt-rΠριν 2 μήνες
  • So where a S2000 fall compared to Miata and Solstice 😆

    Gregory FreemanGregory FreemanΠριν 2 μήνες
  • hey doug i have a del sol in alaska so you cant test mine but i would love you do one on the del bro. since i saw chris lift the miata top off....maybe you could use his........

    tsirkucptsirkucpΠριν 2 μήνες
  • American cars are always designed around the cupholders, first. Designers often fight for weeks over how many cupholders the car should have. Once that is decided it's all about how big they can make the grille and exhaust.

    TheLobstersoupTheLobstersoupΠριν 2 μήνες
  • Jazz!!

    Ibil SyahbaniIbil SyahbaniΠριν 2 μήνες
  • I miss Jazz. Yes it's a Pontiac solstice but to me it's Jazz

    pontiacGXPfanpontiacGXPfanΠριν 2 μήνες
  • Not better than a Miata. Fake news.

    PhillPhillΠριν 2 μήνες
  • The panel over the top is called a tonneau, a word leftover from when French cars ruled, 1895-1905.

    Tom FrazierTom FrazierΠριν 2 μήνες
  • The plastic interior may have sucked back in the day, but it’s awesome right now. Virtually indestructible. No padding that cracks, no fading, no leather that cracks or shrinks. Not only are these interiors in good shape now, they still will be in 10 years.

    Luke RecordsLuke RecordsΠριν 2 μήνες
  • I like Doug. He's great, but I hate it when he makes fun of every car for having branding.

    Micah SwartzMicah SwartzΠριν 2 μήνες
  • Can you imagine the Hell that would rain down on us all if Doug had said that the Solstice was better than the current generation Supra?

    Blair BrownBlair BrownΠριν 2 μήνες
  • Had one for 180k miles and never had one problem aside from being broken into. Was a fun and surprisingly reliable car.

    Jay QJay QΠριν 2 μήνες
  • If I got one of these, I'm sure I'd love it. My coworkers wouldn't be so happy. (I work for Mazda)

    Tyler TheFriendlyItalianTyler TheFriendlyItalianΠριν 2 μήνες